Virtual Star Party 3

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well hello everybody uh this is Scott Roberts here with explore scientific and welcome to Virtual Star Party three uh

I'm joined here with astronomers from the northern to the Southern Hemisphere and from uh the Americas to Europe and

uh so it's kind of a worldwide star party uh we've got uh some great astronomers here

um I'll bring them all on so you can see what's going on uh so we have uh Rodrigo

zaleida from Chile North Optics um uh David Levy from Vail Arizona

needs no further introduction uh Steve Malia from Ontario telescopes Jerry

Hubble of course from explore scientific Gary Palmer from the UK uh you know

mentor to many uh Ash the the Astro beard Richard Grace uh you know from

Annapolis Maryland Cesar brolo from Argentina at Optica siraco yeah David

ing astronomer in Temecula California and Tyler Bowman here at explore scientific

as well and we may have other people joining us as we go along uh we are of

course waiting for Dustin Gibson from opt I do want to take a moment to thank

Dustin Gibson and opt and the clear skies Network for letting us broadcast

on their Channel this this uh this evening it's really great and um anyways

um I think it would be nice to uh get started with uh Dr David Levy uh lover

of Skies lover of uh the written word uh a man who's written many words many

books and uh you know it's uh it's always awesome to have him so here we go

Scotty thank you so much and welcome to the third virtual Star Party

um I'm going to begin and end with quotations tonight and here's the opening one our fondness

for the Stars has touched our souls we all share the feeling of Discovery

whether the object we have found is mutual or new only to us

the thrill penetrates our being as we tried to describe through drawings

photographs or words how we have been changed by a universe sharing a secret

with us wonderful

David who wrote that oh Scotty they uh they they turn they

they threw away the mold after they made people like that you don't get anybody riding like that anymore now why are you

laughing Scotty let me see if I can find could have

written such incredible words this is embarrassing this is from a book

I wrote called Guide to the night sky oh wow I wrote these words with the

commas and everything so I take back everything I say anyway ladies and gentlemen boys and girls

Welcome to our star party tonight uh it's wonderful to share with you a

little bit of the night sky I was out last night the entire night using two telescopes that I have

uh one of them is called Eureka and it's an explore scientific telescope that I

that I that I've had for over almost a year now and the other one was Miranda it's a 16

inch F5 telescope that I've discovered most of my visual comments with and with

those two telescopes last night I did over three hours of searching for comments I don't ever expect to discover

a comment again but it's fun to search

um tonight I'm going to talk with you a little bit about an observing session I had right around this time September the

1st 1960. those of you who have seen Jupiter and Saturn looking very close together in

the night sky uh it's kind of interesting because that's where Jupiter and Saturn were in

1960 they get close together like that every 12 years it is called a great

conjunction it is one that Shakespeare wrote about a long long time ago

and it is one that will set me with my very first telescope to look up at the

night sky mom and dad were with me and I remember as we're looking through

the telescope I had a thought and the thought went something like this Daddy come look at the evening sky

and to the edge of tomorrow's Dawn and he looked through the telescope and he saw Jupiter that amazing wonderful

planet with four moons and clouds going across it

uh Galileo himself could have felt no greater thrill than we did that night in

our rediscovery of Jupiter on its wounds little did I know that night that 33

years later I would be involved in a very important Comet Discovery a comment

that in 1993 was discovered and a year later collided with Jupiter in one of

the most spectacular explosions ever witnessed by Humanity in our solar

system and uh it was it was

you know the the Collision of the common Shoemaker leaving nine might have been the highlight of my professional career

but it really brought me back to why I do this why I spend all night looking up

at the night sky watching the Persian meteors searching for comets doing all these

other things that I really enjoy doing and the night as uh Shoemaker Levy 9

collided with Jupiter during that wonderful week during the summer of 1994.

it brought me back to my father long gone now and then

when who I was able to ask Daddy come look at the evening sky

and and as I'm sure that if you were here right now he would say that wasn't a

collision we saw that was a sailing ship taking a voyage through the cosmic sea and it didn't

collide with Jupiter it came home to Jupiter and about a year later

a very famous pianist can meet Hima wrote a little song

about about our comet about its collision with Jupiter

and about my asking Dad to come out and look at the evening Sky Scotty let's

hear that song now okay let's do that

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all that great sailing system till the skin

you know I I think about that song and that year it was might have been the highlight of

my professional life but it just brought me back to what I love to do searching for comments I closed with a quote that

I've always enjoyed from Leslie Peltier time has not lessened the age-old Allure

of the comets in some ways their mystery has only deepened with the ears at each return a

comet brings with it the questions which were asked when it was here before and as it rounds the Sun and backs away

towards a long slow night of its appelian that leaves behind with us

those questions still unanswered to hunt a speck of moving Haze may seem a

strange Pursuit but even though we fail the search is still a warning for no better way can we

come face to face night after night with such a wealth of riches as old crosses

never dreamed of thank you all very much all right

thank you very much David that was awesome that was awesome beautiful work

beautiful words okay everyone uh you know we are a

virtual Star Party three and uh we promise uh door prizes and so one of the

uh door prizes the Grandeur prize for tonight uh and and I'm gonna pick another door prize here in a few minutes

but uh this store prizes the explore scientific ar-102 dual speed focuser

four inches of aperture F 6.5 diffraction limited Optics and um

wherever you are in the world we're going to ship this to you so if you're the winner um and so the way that's going to work

is uh Jerry Hubble is going to um present the question and uh he told

me he's not going to make it easy so yeah actually so that's the reason why I

kind of want to get you guys uh prepared in advance okay um and uh

so here we go um you know I guess Dustin Gibson's coming on with us right now Mr don't have a

question

you have a question ready uh Jerry not not quite and give me about three minutes okay three minutes all right

that's great yeah hey how we doing everybody can you guys hear me okay yeah I hear you all

right perfect yeah if my audio starts breaking up let me know I've had some I've had some trouble with the box here but you know if there weren't uh I.T

issues it wouldn't be fun that's true that's true it was uh it was a little bit of a Scramble for me to learn how to

uh uh work with uh the clear skies Network you know

going and all the rest of it so it's been really great to have you uh uh coach coach us through that with your

team Dustin so we really uh I'm not sure how much coaching I did but uh Hey man you're you know what happened you made

it happen yeah I just gave you the right contact information look at this group this group is insane look at this look

at this what you organize man did you do this all in one day this is nuts not one

day but uh we have we do have some great people uh I don't know if you know Rodrigo zaleida he's from uh North

Optics in La Serena Chile so the next time you get down in that part of the world Dustin you're gonna have to go

visit Rodrigo he'll take you to some of the darkest guys in the world um great to meet you Rodrigo right all

right nice to meet you right Mr David Levy who just gave a great uh talk and

uh he shared his uh his video and his poetry is so awesome and needs no

introduction right here in the world I'm sure at this point telescopes um Stephen is uh uh you know one of the

top dealers up in Canada uh maybe excellent popular and our friends to the north how you doing Steve how are you

good good thanks for being on here thank all of you for being on here this is awesome wow I uh so I realized you know

Scott and I Scott and I he's one of my favorite people in the world I give him a hard time all the time Scott's one of my favorite people in the world we share

similar philosophies on pretty much everything giveaways being a big part of that but uh I get a text from Scott says

hey we're live like hey man where are you how many times did I tell this guy hey

I'll be there at eight I'll be there at eight but then I remember he chose Arkansas he chose Arkansas to live in so

yeah it's already past State there no thank you come on man like an Arkansas Dustin you know you ran

opt before we did what are you doing you know we work on Pacific time that's all right that's all right

that's true I just get a little screwed up sometimes but uh yeah where are you

Dustin oh man okay I'll jump in then sorry dude sorry

no no it was perfect it's perfect this is way more fun than the meetings I've been doing so this is perfect right so

um uh we um uh you know we should probably get started with

um our friends down down under here and uh let's uh let's uh meet with uh

Rodrigo zaleda and uh Rodrigo what do you got to uh what do you got to share with us today

that is very common in the in winter but

um I tell you a picture uh for

for the object of the song and for my my Badger and when the explore

scientific telescope telescope hmm

there we go um

you see the my picture yes yes

your beautiful daughter yes my daughter is with me and every night we did that

go is my my personal assistance and this is my my telescope for

astrophotography and

so that's a Guan Shang uh was that an eight-inch RC

yes very nice very nice

and then Apple yes in the

um with control with uh Askins the software

and a job per month in Samsung S8

my new one for a large telescope

um my pictures for the Third

wow yeah obviously oh it's too good it's too good it hurts

to look at a little bit

um Sky about a four four bottle

and this photo is first floor scientific telescope and I'm using the Dual narrow

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in the nebula a beautiful shot yes this this photo is from reflex

camera is a one hour of the position

just one hour one hour I need to quit

that's what's crazy I know I know as soon as he pulled up these specs I was

like oh my God I'm embarrassed is very bright and it's big nebula for

this and it's uh the favorite

um all right yeah orange refractor too incredible yeah yes

it's a for refractor

this a is another object the

Liberty if

this is a

the this this picture

the geometry is similar for the last Saturday

the Statue of Liberty the Statue of Liberty right yes yeah

it's near for the uh it's a cabin in the south is a

little object um is the shot with

um filter excellent work

this this photo is this new photo for the

the ticket nebula with a Rich secretary

with my new camera watching

is qhy 294c yes new camera it's such a great camera

and we meet uh but like on

is nice photo nice photo beautiful it is a good one yeah

with a um with a good visual telescope you can see some of those colors

visually too yes there is

observation and photography is I like it

this is a old picture for a in Mars with the

lower cluster Omega Centauri in the soul is in

wonderful the big the crazy oh yeah you

see somebody uh somebody here saying that uh interesting the pin tax was

sharper and what what's really interesting about it I mean we sell so we sell the guanchene Optics under a

brand we uh We've named TPO but it's not that the Pentax was sharper the qhy

camera that you have is actually a better camera for astronomy much much better what is sharper is the FCD 100

Optics um and you know honestly coming out just straight out of the out of the box

they're going to be in perfect collimation and I don't say that lightly because I really think that RC's are

some of the best telescopes ever made I do it's one of the best Optical designs ever made but the problem with them is

that collimation is so unbelievably critical that in so challenging because

it doesn't have the spherical secondary that if it's off at all it will get you

know it will it will not be able to maximize its sharpness and so everything comes into play at those focal lengths

too like uh image scale you know pixel size all of it but those um those FCD uh

100 telescope the four inch refractor really all FCD Scopes that you guys make and I'm not just saying this because

Scott's a friend but I really think for as far as value goes you can see in

those images just how sharp that is that's what the DSLR so you start throwing you know astronomy

dedicated cameras like uh you know the 16070 the 1603 or anything astronomy

dedicated with big pixels it's it's unreal how sharp that glass is so kudoscot and team because these images

are incredible yeah thank you thank you yeah

yes I literally took the screen and

is very complicated it's very

all right Rodrigo we're going to um we're going to let let's share one more

image and then we're going to switch astronomers and see what everyone else is doing okay so okay all right

uh right yeah Scott I've got that question if you wanna

all right do something with it here in a moment um and uh

and uh you know so so what's the uh what's gonna be the question here let's let's put the spotlight so what's what

is the uh again what's the telescope because it's related to that telescope I

want to make sure I get the right one oh yeah okay so it is the uh it's an ar-102 explore scientific F 6.5

acre map 102. okay so this question is going to

be related to the image Circle which we don't we have calculation we have a web page on our website that talks about the

image circles and the uh the folk the full and unvignated image

circle on uh our FCD on our uh on our eight appos so I'm gonna refer to the

102 Apple uh FCD 100

all right and the question is uh on the 102 FCD 100 what is the

unvignated image Circle size in millimeters

this is on our website image Circle size in millimeters of the

AR explore scientific ar102 no of the um of the 102 FCD 100 right we don't have

image Circle calculations for the AR No 102 FCD 100 okay all right so all right

uh so uh you're going to email your

answers into Kent here I'm going to give

I forgot about that I forgot we were going to email those at it's more scientific everybody's posting comments

yeah they are.com and the first one to get the answer right and send it over to Kent is the winner Kent at explore

scientific .com

that is a really challenging question too the unvignated wow

well it's on our website they're like late grad school oh okay I thought you were making people calculate

you're looking for it on our website all right

okay so who's got uh some images coming through a telescope are you uh are you

uh still Imaging Richard and you're muted yes I am yeah yes I am

um I can share what I've got at the moment okay all right let's check it out sharing the screen

beard is glorious yeah I need a beard like that when I grow up all right so right now

um beard only comes out one side of my face so it's not gonna work for me yeah

I think that's the wrong screen I'm sharing sorry

Marshall s in the waiting room he's got Jupiter

oh okay well we'll switch to Rick's next here okay is

okay so this is the right screen okay yeah exposure counting down now yep and

I have a little a little wispiness coming through right here

yeah and that is the Western Vale NGC uh 69.60

um so there's going to be a whole bunch of stuff that's going to stretch out up here and this is going to look really awesome

um so I am extremely looking forward to that and uh do you want me to share an image

from last night yeah let's see what you what you actually when I say last night I mean

this morning uh with the identical setup

uh I'm using the ed-80 with a 0.8 uh focal flattener right now

okay

I got that this morning uh went to bed at 5 30 a.m slept for a long time uh

woke up did a quick process on it and uh that prompted me to want to do the Western Bale tonight

so I still see I think your screen is still on your camera oh

hold on just glad to know it's not just me I struggle with all of that

seeing like one star one star in there see the veil on your screen there oh

that's what the veil looks like there it is that's beautiful that's great look at

that what's that shot with escrow it's amazing and explore scientific ed80

carbon fiber but the camera uh a zwo 183

cold well it's uh pretty much the entry level for cold cameras uh 30 filters or

anything involved uh yes I am using a opt along L enhance uh also a teleview

0.8x flattener reducer um and that's an hour worth of Subs

if you ever want to use the lxtreme just let me know and I can send you one to try out

that's really cool I'm actually looking for the elpro right now because that's the whole one that's the hole in my slot

right now I need something I can use on Galaxies yeah that makes sense I appreciate that though

very cool very cool uh let me know it's amazing find the shops the stop sharing button and uh we'll we'll do the other

one later when all right okay that's great that's great and um uh

let's jump to uh let's go let's head north north to uh Canada here uh can I can I interrupt you

real quick Scott one more time sure I just sent you an email with the information for that question

uh and I sent it to Kent also for the answer okay all right all right we'll

grab it and we'll post the uh the question on to uh our chat

I'm actually having to send it to two separate Chats on the clear sky Network I have to jump to that one and then we

got another stream going here at the same time so this uh some of the uh jumping back and forth but

it's all cool it's all cool all right so let's uh let's do this and we also have

Rick Marshall here in Arkansas okay we'll go to him next um and he's got apparently he's got

Jupiter live so uh he'll share us uh share that view here he loves doing

video astronomy but uh you've got the spotlight there

Steve thanks Scott how's everyone doing tonight um again thanks for having me on I'm

still trying to get myself uh situated a couple of Rotator errors but uh things are moving

along I want to share a picture from last week from the image M27

and I ended up doing over two nights so last week Tuesday and Wednesday and well let me share my screen I should

I should really know how to do this

hopefully you can see that excellent so that's a uh yeah that's a composite

of uh RGB and ha um but I can't take credit for the

processing I I I'm so busy right now I ended up giving the data to uh calibrated data to a

buddy of mine and uh he's the next one astrophotographer and uh he did the um the actual processing for

me it probably doesn't look all that great across the zoom call um so I'm enjoying this this great

picture and all the story right now but um I'm not sure if it comes across you can see some of the

the dust around oh yeah you can see some of the nebulosity around it okay good

um zoom up on it a little bit Steve uh yeah pixel peepers come into play yeah oh

yeah look at that that might overcome limits

so I'm uh pretty happy with with how that turned out and uh

um during all the uh guiding issues and and uh crappy sky that we had last week

uh the humidity up here has been extremely high so at night

um uh there's a lot of uh there's a lot of humidity in the air and then any uh

any light pollution just like just lights up the entire sky and it's very difficult to uh

cut through it but for an RGB image it's actually uh it's actually pretty uh pretty pretty

good it's quite happy with that it is pretty nice yeah so uh you know that's uh that was the

extent of of my work from last week so tonight I'm going after uh the bubble

um in uh with some narrowband uh Imaging and um uh I've done it before in the past

but now I've kind of my technique I want to do what I can do with it again um

and then uh don't go from there I've got a little presentation but I'll take care of that later on

um and then uh this weekend uh traditionally this weekend is uh starfest which is the largest star party

in Canada right but uh because of you know the current situation that we're all in

um they elected to uh cancel starfest but there's also government regulations and uh prescriptions on right now as

well so my friends and I are actually going up to the same Campground uh the some of

them are there now we're going up there this weekend and uh um the consider for telescopes at least six feet apart

and uh Still Still image uh nicely so I'm looking forward to that this weekend

the weather is starting to look uh good they're changing the forecast every day but I'm looking forward to getting

through those darker Skies once again and then I can actually try my new uh my new rig out under uh some good good Dark

Skies so I'm quite excited about that awesome awesome wonderful okay all right let's uh

yes I don't mean to interrupt the kids in the waiting room let's make him wait okay

all right we're letting him in that's great um uh so we've got Rick Marshall here

Rick is here in Arkansas so before it clouds over Rick we do want to see uh we

want to see what you got going on in the telescope so welcome to the virtual Star Party three

yeah thank you can you hear me okay Scott we can hear you yeah videos

perfect that's okay well that's okay we'll switch over to something a little brighter because uh here so uh what I'm

going to show you here is a is uh video a live video astronomy shot uh I have a

Celestron nine and a quarter inch Evolution uh SCT um and I have instead of an eyepiece I

have a camera in it uh as most of your astrophotographers know um the difference is I'm not doing any

stacking or anything so this is a this is a live image can you all see yeah this is a real live image

um and so um uh I have a uh I think an IMX uh 157

I think is the chip in in this one it's a little bullet camera so it's you know it's it's not very much bigger than an

eyepiece itself um and it uh and it goes right in there so um over here in my settings you might

see here over an exposure time I have and I can actually do some cool little and annotation here um I'm currently

running at 30 ml second so what you're seeing is an exposure of Jupiter at 30

milliseconds you can barely see some moons here so you've got Ganymede here

you've got IO here and what I could do is I can bump up this exposure real

quick and uh let me bump this up to to let's say 75

milliseconds and Jupiter will get washed out but you can see them much much

clearer it looks like I'm a little out of it and I might be a little bit out of focus here but uh I think this over here

is Europa over over here and then Callisto is the one that's up just a

little bit off the plane of of these now if I were to let's say capture video

to try to create an image I might even take this a little further down than

than 30 because I would be doing a lot of stacking but um you could distinctly

see the different bands just with this um and you can see the great red spot right where my little hand is right in

there barely right um and uh I guess the other thing I would add too is uh I have no filters on

this so normally I would probably put in a uvir cut filter to get a little bit of

the high arc cutting to get some of that in the circus cirence so the you know the shorter wavelengths

um uh light off of off of that so that would cut down a little bit of the disturbance and crisping it up a bit

um and where are you exactly at uh Rick I'm in my driveway in in Springdale

Arkansas probably about a 10 minute drive from the explore scientific headquarters

that's cool that's cool yep and I actually have quite a bit of light solution to myself we have a pretty

major you know that main drag through the city as you would call it um is is to myself but so I have to use

a lot of filters when I'm I'm doing um sorry you can see my tracking is not perfect because we're we're scooting off

to the to the left a little bit here but um you know it's uh I haven't done any

polar alignment got a two-star alignment going on so nothing super fancy but um one of the things I really like about

video astronomy is you know I could just walk over and just pop over to Saturn next and start looking at Saturn and you

know pop over and maybe change things around a little bit and jump to deep Sky object or something like that

um although with this scope I often will switch to hyperstar configuration for uh

you know uh little fainer fuzzies that are smaller sure hey Rick we've had uh

star parties together where you know you've had Jupiter projected on the wall of a at a state park

like two feet and it was it stole the show from everybody else

yeah yep yep I actually you know since this is just this is the video feed off of my computer I can send it to a

projector and we we hung basically a big sheet on the side of the building and projected Jupiter so it's about two feet

wide you know not a lot of great detail but uh the public loved it and um you

know one of the things I'll just mention real quick with doing video astronomy like this at public Outreach events is

you know you can get a whole bunch of people looking around you know looking at your table looking at the monitor

they're not in line they're not touching the scope they're not bumping it um you know and also

um people who you know uh have disabilities if someone's in a wheelchair they can roll right up and

see if they're where they might not be able to look through you know an eyepiece right and all that or or yeah

social distancing where uh you know maybe you hang out with you but they can

be far enough apart to be safe and uh you guys really enjoy the sky so that's really cool excellent yeah I'll do

Facebook live and things like that and just just put it out there for people to see see cool stuff

wonderful wonderful all right so I'd like to jump back to uh

Dustin here for a moment um uh we uh

uh you know I have uh I have been uh in awe really of a lot of

the things that Dustin has done with the educational Outreach uh supporting

things like the clear skies network uh he did uh a back-to-back Star Party

nights uh you know for I don't know how long and he's still he's still going strong

um you know what what drives you Dustin to to do all this stuff

this man exactly what we're doing now you know I I tell people this all the

time and it sounds like a punch line or like a slogan but I know that you I mean you all get it because

look at what you're doing with your free time right now right you don't have to be doing we love this yeah exactly

exactly it's like so I I tell people all the time I work with all of my heroes and so I just keep pushing this stuff

out and trying to drive it Forward because I feel like finding this perspective I mean I went through four

years of philosophy school right and then change directions and went through biology and chemistry and into

Kinesiology and then planetary science and grad school and I feel like the whole time all I needed to do instead

was just buy a telescope it gives you it gives you more perspective instantly

like I totally understand what Henry David Thoreau said where and he was like you know I went into the wood for Woods

for 10 minutes and learned more than I did in four years at Harvard um it's like I I totally understand that

because there are some things in life that are just an instant perspective shift and I think that more so than

anything else astronomy carries that weight like it you can look through a telescope scope I looked through a

poorly collimated telescope I bought on Craigslist with an eyepiece that was probably meant for something that came

from Costco and I absolutely like I was blown away

knocked backwards seeing the moon for the first time and I wish I could go back now and see what that actually

looks like because now that I've you know looked through nice telescopes and all this stuff I wish I could go back

and see but I just remember that feeling and it's the same exact feeling that you get every time you start watching your

countdown timer on your Imaging system you know count down to 98 99 then you

see the image pop up every time I'm just like how is this real how is this what we do we're the only humans in all of human

history to be able to say that this is something we are doing for fun ever

that's true we're exploring the universe in high resolution right for the first time ever as a hobby

and we're seeing things that no other living Generations had ever even known existed you know and it's like it's it's

new information that there are even other galaxies out there this is all relatively new information and then you

guys are posting live streams of Jupiter like what the hell has happened you know

so it's like when you know when it's like why are we doing this how could we

not be doing this how could we not be sharing this this is the perspective that I feel like we need this is a

unifying experience and there are a limited number of things out there that can bring people together the way that

walking outside being in awe of something that is so Grand

can do and I I think that we are all like we have that we know that information and when you fall in love

with something you you just want to share it right and and that's what we do so we share so so tell tell us a little bit yeah

last weekend you were aligned with Neil deGrasse Tyson I was I was watching

Neil deGrasse Tyson flank by two of my great friends Dustin Gibson and Abigail

bolenbach okay and I was just going I was just loving that okay um uh what what was it uh what was that

like for you I mean to have uh have uh you know the grass Tyson there I mean

that's that's like uh that's big time it's like having Carl Sagan there right yeah he he's kind of a big deal yeah

um you know I sent him I sent him a really nice note afterwards I just told him I said look um I know I mean the guy gets paid huge

money huge money to go do talks and everything right yeah and he doesn't have to do these things right he does it

he does it because he just he he is one of us I can tell you that like he really

is one of us and he is interested in growing the community and using his

celebrity to lift his people right astronomy lovers and people that have

have tuned in to this idea that there's something bigger than us and that it's

worth understanding from whatever perspective you come from it doesn't matter it doesn't matter and it's one of the things I really love and respect

about him is that it's the like it doesn't matter where you came from as long as this moves you and I don't know

I don't trust somebody that it doesn't right first off if you meet somebody and you're like hey go outside in the dark

sky look up and tell me what you feel and they're like yeah it was all right I don't trust you

I don't trust you at all you're not in my you're not in my circle of friends right but I feel like this is the

community he is supporting and for him to give his time uh same thing you know

that whole group The People he's with like Bill Nye uh you know Bill Nye does an event with us every year uh under the

space shuttle in LA in that whole circle of friends that they kind of have I feel like they're doing this because for all

the right reasons and that they truly want to use their time their celebrity like everything the infrastructure

they've developed to lift the community wherever that is and wherever they can reach in to do that they do it and they

do it just out of a genuine interest in supporting that community and I really respect that because I mean I can tell

you as a business owner I mean Scott you get this there's never enough time in the day to do the things you need to do ever and you know somebody that is

dependent their time is actually their money like like Neil I mean when they are doing that they are

doing that at their cost and so to do something at your own cost I feel like nothing I don't respect anything more

than people that are willing to do that they set aside their individual needs and aspirations to say this is about you

and I'm going to lift you up and he talked to everybody on the panel and found something to bring up and I'm just

like this guy is is someone that we should celebrate this is the type of person I want to see on TV I want to see

you know and uh you know I'm proud of everything he's doing and I think that you know I'm proud that clear skies

Network can be a part of it that's reflected in you too you're you're doing you're doing exactly the same thing and

uh you know you could be doing lots of things okay but uh I know that you love

this I know that um I know it's enriching and uh you know

but uh you like like everyone else here that's that's on right now is uh is is

uh you know doing things for the right reasons so I I I'm really I'm really

pleased to have you on uh you know it's it's uh it's great and um you know you

sharing uh clear skies network with us uh is also really amazing so thank you that's great no absolutely and I think

that that's what this is about man look I mean we can this is a small industry so we can all be competitive if we want

to and pretend that there's this big war going on or we can just embrace the fact that this is a small industry this is a

unique perspective and one that we should share and embrace instead cooperation and I think that we found

right we found after the Cold War even that it's a hell of a lot better to embrace cooperation over competition

especially when space is involved always always yep awesome okay let's uh let's

jump back down South and talk to Cesar brolo in

Argentina uh Caesar hi hi Scott hi

everybody all right we have the spotlight on you uh well today uh we've had uh we don't

uh was lucky here because we have a mostly cloudy night

um I put my on a small telescope in middle of the city where I live

um of course that one of my my I don't know in English when when you

have a mission one of my mission is encouraged people to take pictures or

use the telescope everywhere in the middle some people tell me oh I don't

use my telescope because I live in Buenos Aires okay Buenos Aires is a

it's a nightmare but maybe when I listen

tell me come on four bottle four or five come on here we have nine ten I don't

know right I I send you a picture to to your uh uh just uh the the the white sky

with the with the blown out sky sure yes

yes but today uh many people told me okay I didn't see anything okay put

yourself on your Mars phone put your reflex camera many people have a

reference camera and don't know that can make with with a telescope uh pictures

in middle of the city and sometimes maybe the best the best uh

IPS in the in the city sometimes is a cell phone that make some type of of uh

you know that can make the you can regulate these the eso or the exposition

or of course I'm I'm considered more a reflex camera sometimes a reference

camera that is today is cheap um and

um you can um the people can uh recuperate can can

get use again their telescope in the in the Terrace of their their hum

in middle of the city and it's sometimes it's a second pain

that maybe I don't thought that I am today I am I'm in the middle of this

campaign because you know I am sell telescopes and I can believe sometimes

when okay for Me Maybe I I prefer

sometimes we don't be more interested only in the in the commercial part if

not I am a part of this come on when you sell the same that you love

you uh participate with the people in another dimension where you say come on

do you use your telescope no why is it is something that I can't take distance

from the things that I sell this this is interesting because sometimes that

people say okay I you know I I sell this to these weird people that love the sky

I don't know no the problem is that I am the were people yes

yes and of course that is is very interesting how

we encouraging people from in the last five years uh the user their telescopes

in middle of the city um the people is going to to take uh

pictures every time much much better uh

using you know using some type of filters or uh processing the pictures uh

do you have a lot a lot of different tools to to save a picture from him

maybe Immortals seven eight or nine Skies

yes yes and so there's no reason to stop Imaging just because you have light

pollution right absolutely exactly lots of skills to learn uh and uh when you do

finally get out tender darker Skies it's it's all the better you're you're a much better astronomer so yes yes

absolutely all right Caesar so that thank you uh we are going to jump to uh

Gary Palmer in the UK hi everybody how are you I'm very well

thank you what time is it there uh it's four a.m

awesome [Laughter] wow yeah

um yeah it's uh it's gonna be a leg one tonight yeah Gary does some amazing

Imaging uh he is uh someone that teaches people astrophotography he teaches them

all aspects of astronomy uh he loves it and you know whether he's doing solar or

deep Sky he always pushes the envelope you know so understands that are compromising most

of the time because of the clouds in the UK really challenging the last three

months um it's just an odd night here or there um

yeah uh the last week has just been really humid thunderstorms

um even with the soda it's really struggling to get even a big through the clouds at the moment so

but we've been push along we get along so

um we were sort of running through on

um what we were going to do for this because it's going to be cloudy tonight so what I thought I would look at is

um condensing about four hours into ten minutes um for how we do some processing in

Pitch inside so if I share the screen up and

should be about okay and then if we bring pigs inside out now I'm going to crush four hours of

training into ten minutes yeah this is gonna be interesting you guys better take notes uh you just recorded at this

point right the first point is where we load the

images into the system so we open up our batch processor or

you've got other um options in here um but to this particular one we're just

going to use the batch processor and I'm going to run through this really quickly so we load all of our lights into here

this is with a one shot color camera as the zw0094

Pro so it's a full frame camera and then we had a Flats in adults in and

our biases in now with me I've actually got Masters

click the wrong one there I've got Masters here so I've actually ticked down here that I'm using Masters

for the calibration frames we also need to look at the current this is really important this is where a lot

of people trip up when we need to be by the image in its insight uh it's all

down to the software itself in the way that it writes the fixed file

so if it writes the pits bowl from the top down um which a lot of the modern software

does say wo software does and quite a lot of those um then we need to have this box checked

yeah if it writes from the bottom up yeah like these were captured in shark

cap then it needs to be unchicked and the buyer changes yeah so if we were

going from the top down we would be using the standard rggb in the sense we're reversing this now so

we're going gbr G because we're reading from the bottom up and we're unchecking that holes now I'm not going to run this

because this actually takes two hours to process this lot because there's so much information in there

so we're going to cancel out that for a minute once it is run we end up with a screen

here that's the image yeah as it comes in um

so what we need to do and next thing will be our Dynamic background extraction so this is really our process

into all of our processes that I use for this image to get it through so it's final so

we can open up the dialog box for it and we're already selected on them we

can select generate now depending on the settings here we're not

going to have enough time in 10 minutes to go through all of these settings but if anybody wants any of this information then just message me and I'll pass the

information over to you one of the key things when we're putting in any of these markers is to keep them away from

the edge of the Galaxy and the reason for that is because we will end up with a dark trop right

around the edge of the Galaxy if we get in too close if we end up with markers in here where there's really nebulosity

part of the Galaxy we need to be stepping away and the same on the the smaller galaxies here we need to keep

this way but you do need to fill the screen up with these yeah and get them right into the corners change the end of

the settings yes I can just quickly change that one now so 1.5 oh

we go and then we generate you'll see that we get a lot more so if we now Translate to 15.

generate again you see that we're gonna add more in there but you quite often by doing this

you've got a lot more to move out the field of view what this Dynamic background instruction

does is it removes and calibrates the background of the image so we're going

to cancel out of that because we've already done it and here's what I did earlier

and ruin the site at the moment where the image is not stretched that's what we get to when the background

neutralization is done Dynamic background extraction is that our next process

just to check that is done is a background neutralization so we

run through that and then our next process will be color calibration there's a couple of ways of doing color

calibration um it depends on uh really the the cameras and the

telescopes are using sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't I personally use

uh the color calibration on this one that you can use photosynthetic color calibration

and that takes data um from the internet it also needs the

data of your equipment so you need the focal length of the telescope and the pixel size in the camera for that to be

uh able to work just close that there we go

after the color calibration is done readjust the screen again

well we're starting to so what this has done is this is gradually calibrated into

roughly around the correct colors um

noise reduction if we go right into the image and we look in the background

let's step on a bit there we go we look in here we see all sorts of noise going on in the background

um there's a couple of ways you can use a wavelets noise reduction or you can use

the multi-scale linear transform I use that with a mask you can make a simple

mask for this plenty of information on how to do this online and then

that would reduce the noise there so we're on to the next stage and

that's it so our mulch spreads now when we stretch the image weakened over the

histogram seem to be getting a few boxes in the way there

there we go so we can do a general stretch with the histogram in our normal way by stretching and resetting

um but what we're trying to do here is not overcook the Stars uh the telescope it

will save normal is an 11 inch Razor so it's at 2.2 and what you'll find is that the cause

of the stars are going to be very very bright so there is a system on here that

you can just use the reference box in the background and then use a preset brightness to to bring the image up to

and that's just using the last stretch system it's really straightforward to use

and then once we've got to that point our image is stretched so that's it it looks a little bit dull

at the moment but that again is because we're trying to keep these stars back before we do anything

now some processes on here are external and one of the most popular

ones at the moment is a business article called starnet for removing the Spells so if we remove the soles we can work on

the background image and if we start up starting it what you really need to do with this before you remove the Stars

this crew make uh create a start Mouse do we can put the stars back in so we've actually already done the wrong

one it's the time one there

moving everything around

so this is the Stars removed from the image and we're just keeping that in the background at the moment because we're

going to go back to that and reintroduce those files

and the image will look like that well so

we've still got a few of the brighter points in now and we need to go through those yeah so on that we just use the

the Clone tool and we've clone these files out

so we cloned most of those out and then we can do some other things we can work on the

um color we can use different processes to bring in more color

and also to work on the Galaxy itself so we could use something like um the HDR multi-scale transform that

will bring in more detail in the Galaxy itself and gradually as we're running through

then we can start to bring in a little bit more color into it put a little bit in the essence down the bottom there

that's really down to the size of the the sensor that we were using on the telescope

and run all the way through and that's really um where it gets to we've cropped it

down a fraction there to remove some of the veneers in anything else is done in Photoshop so when we get into Photoshop

that's the mono version of the pen now photo as well that's incredible and

that's the color version wow so that's really it it's a really it's a

lot of playing around I need to put that on my wall that's awesome [Laughter]

that's awesome so did everybody get that you know because he's not going to repeat

yeah I just have to watch this episode three or four times you have to watch

the episode Gary um there was a question out there that somebody wanted to know what kind what

was your scope Imaging train what did you what did you use yeah it's

um it was the oh now full Pro Camera I think that's um super seeded now the new

ones coming in this week I've been into it's 2400 yeah which is the latest one of the latest full frame cameras

um the Celestron marzer uh 11 inch okay F 2.2

um and then there was 230 30 second shots

for that and about 13 dogs 30 Flats

um and I did use bars on that yeah so a little bit of work on that a little

bit of work yeah it did have a couple of runs that may be processing it to try

and get it the main thing was trying to keep some detail in the stars and also the rails that picks up the cables

because the camera's mounted on the front so you will even if you put an S in the

cables and you play around with them yeah it's a really bright stars they pick up the edges of the table so that

can give you the donut effects where you end up with quite a um really it looks like an Overexposed

style and you can play around I mean you could come in at 10 seconds and maybe do

a style field with it but on that particular night there wasn't the the timer that was actually a test shot that

was the thing about the second instruction so

yeah excellent well Dave ing how are you

doing out there in Temecula California I'm doing pretty good thanks

um thank you Gary that's awesome um I was afraid that it might start to

rain on me and there was a threat of some thunder showers and lightning but starting to clear up there's still a lot

of clouds out so I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to get anything okay I'm gonna try

um I did want to share some pictures I have previously taken if that's okay

sure absolutely they are nothing like Gary's so

it's hard to beat Harry's shots and then uh let me see if I can pop one open here

yeah but it's fun to try yeah well that's what drives you it's it's

just the Perfection you're striving towards a a better and better outcome

every time you go out right no well Dave gets that ready I'm going

to uh I'm going to show uh the uh door prize number two okay so

um and uh door prize number two Let me just kind of hold it up to the camera so

everybody can see it and here it is uh it's an explore scientific 20 millimeter

100 degree eyepiece uh this is a really beautiful eyepiece for looking at a wide

field uh views of the Milky Way your favorite nebula Orion looks incredible

uh through an eyepiece like this and it just gives you a a great uh spectacular view I think it's this work in the

middle of the city too from the goodness City yeah yeah so that is door prize number two and uh so we're

gonna challenge uh Jerry after uh we'll we'll come back to Jerry after after

Dave um to with his questions so here we go we're back to Dave now hey

let me share my desktop okay sure

okay can you see my desktop oh yeah okay so this simple Galaxy this image is uh

the fireworks Galaxy I did it actually around the Fourth of July and I purposely over saturated it so too much

grief but I just kind of wanted to have a little fun with it for the Fourth of July so oh no Dave Dustin Gibson

approves the 9 000 level saturation [Laughter]

yes this is true this is definitely true that's a beautiful image oh thank you it's really pretty uh let me see if I

can really well well guided looks looks very decent here I was like I always

liked the uh when you isolate the object with a big field of stars especially those objects that are in the Milky Way

I mean it it really puts it in perspective on how how big these Galaxy are galaxies are but also how small they

are compared to the universe uh when you have a field of view like that comparing with a bunch of stars in them and then

the eyes isolated Galaxy I like that a lot okay it looks like when I close that it

stopped my sharing but let me open up another one here and see if I can share

that one else

thank you okay [Music]

here all right M51 yes

and when did you mean a big pardon when did you do this image um I'm not exactly sure all of these

have been done since April of this year that's really when I started Imaging so

I've only been doing it for you know four or five months so I only have like maybe

five or six pictures so you only have four or five months of astrophotography experience right now yes that's oh wow

so this is one of my my earlier ones and you can see the egg-shaped stars in the background but I think I'm you know it's

going to take a little time but I'll get better at it pretty good for That interview using thank you a big pardon what Dave what uh

equipment are you using it looks like an ed-80 but the it's in ed102 explore

scientific triplet I'm using a Nikon DSLR a D5300 nice and

I'm using the ASI Air Pro uh it's the Raspberry Pi device that has the it's

kind of like an all-in-one as image capturing guiding yeah I have the same thing I love it

excellent let's see if I can pull up another one here let me get those Styles there very slightly up like that if you

go into Photoshop and copy the layer and select the top layer as darker

yeah so you bring it around the Galaxy um you can adjust those out yeah it will

just take the X Out of the cells real simple process can you look up online

yeah um and if you can't find it online just uh send me a message and I'll um I'll

send you a link on it okay thanks am I still sharing it says my screen sharing is paused no you're

still sharing a little sharing I can then share you if you'd like no I wanted to show this other one okay no

uh m81 M82 that's another one of my first images oh

yeah not bad beautiful thanks and then the last one you saw last week

already was 13. this is my latest one

and let's see if I can zoom in a little bit

now you did the Sim 13 from the virtual Star Party one correct yes that's when I

captured it and processed it and shared it out last week we're not seeing it right now Dave uh

share the other one

kill that

is it there now yes yeah the colors are really nice yeah very very nice good you

should say the propeller in there as well

yeah just a little bit more exposure on that and you'd see the full print ever

okay thank you Gary for telling me that because I ca I heard that today somewhere at work and explore scientific

and I had no idea what the heck anybody was talking about yeah you you do get a full propellery they're all three

dollars that run right across the center yeah yeah they are yeah bring out with

the rest of the Stars sometimes you've been overexpose it quite easy well I can kind of see it slightly in the image I

mean it is it's very famous I can see it now the center is in the upper left right up from the center the center of

the propeller is right there and then you can see the spokes coming off the propeller blades that's incredible oh

that's cool so tonight I'm not sure if I'm gonna be able to catch anything it's still kind

of Cloudy I can see some Stars uh but right shot

that's all I have for right now okay all right okay so let's uh

um Jerry do we have a question number two yeah I was what's the size of the eyepiece again it's a 20 millimeter 100

degree appearance okay so 100 degrees so the question is going to deal with the

math problems that we talked about before in previous shows um when we gave eyepiece away what is

the um true field of view of that eyepiece

the 100 degree 20 millimeter when used with the 102 FCD 100 scope

and again email your answers to Kent at explorescientific.com

and no matter where you are in the world we'll send the eyepiece to you if you win

so the first person that gets the correct answer and the time stamp on email is who wins so again it the

question is with the 100 degree field of view 20 millimeter eyepiece

what is the true field of view when using that eyepiece with a 102 FCD 100

APO refractor

excellent okay all right so we've made some uh we've gone around

to almost everybody here we have not uh talked to Tyler and Kent

uh uh here they uh of course uh they've both been on our shows on the open go to

community live programs uh Tyler's relatively new

um so let's put the spotlight on you Tyler let's let's let's talk about Tyler's Universe here

uh right now it's just I'm just I'm literally in my kitchen

um for Ken to order me a mount so I can actually start Imaging again I don't

know when that's gonna happen it's hard to get equipment right now isn't it yeah it is extremely hard

um a lot of people go by a telescope gear yeah they they definitely do but since I have

my time working with explore scientific I've seen a tremendous amount of respect that

these people have for our particular company and just in general and they so many people that will just reach out to

just get the answers that they need and it's humbling to me that I actually be a

part of the actual company that can provide answers and give them what they need even we are a small

little niche of a community yes it is it's humbling as always Dustin's always

told me it's humbling that we can provide a service to something that is beyond our

imagination within the actual outside world um because just to be able to look up

and Ponder the idea is there possible extra life is there possible just

anything out there because it's so vast and almost endless it just makes you

think and it makes you very very small God knows how big I am and so it's like

yeah that's right I like to look at it kind of the opposite though I think we're we're precious in the universe

because well we really are few and far between I think

um it's it's thousands I'd be surprised if we were to detect life some kind of

signal or something that it wouldn't be thousands or or hundreds of thousands or even millions of light years away which

means that talks to how rare you know sentient life would be in the universe

right but I mean that right now I'm trying to learn I'm trying to learn the mounts that that Jerry and Scott had

created the IXL 100 and the exos2 GT pmc8

I didn't realize that being a customer service rep I was going to be a computer engineer uh troubleshooting I didn't

realize that this Scott will do that to you yeah

so Jerry go so right I don't I don't even work for Scott and he hits me with

those kind of questions Tyler Tyler asked me a question I said I

said oh it's easy you just go to ftdi chipset and download the vcp and install it he went yeah yeah right huh

what language was that right that's what came to me he came to me to translate a

little bit too it's like I don't remember computer engineer in the general description anywhere it's like

but it's always something new I can't complain that the job is never the same routine but we had but we had that issue

three times today with vcp with three different customers yep did you get the

link did you get the link I sent you Tyler I did get the link I need to send it to the gentleman uh tomorrow morning when I get in the office uh okay they

just describe what it is that way you can he he can get an idea of what he's

actually looking at that we consider them properly um the other gentleman is about to get

to my nerve ah I can't say that I love it but rewind rewind it's part of it

it's part of it doesn't work that way yet that's right yes it's a learning

curve well we have a lot of Industry people on today so um you know and uh you know there are

times there are times where you know you can get uh people uh you know as they're

working through things they can test your uh uh their your patience and uh

your knowledge and all of that but it's still great because they're you know

they're out there exploring the universe and trying to and uh you know sometimes they run to a little bit of frustration

we've got to help them through that so yeah that's right A lot of times though a lot of times though by the time they

get to us it's a wee bit more than a little frustration no sometimes that's

the wee bit that's right yeah you have to remember that's all right that's all right we're here we're here to help so

yeah we can back them down we could back them down off the edge and guard them from square one and just step through

things that that calms them down typically yeah sometimes you have to remember that

that their excitement and their passion is driving them to to come to you to

look for help and and uh um Mrs they have to have them how can I

help them step back a bit and look at everything from a slightly different perspective right and know that it will

work and and we'll get them there and uh um sometimes it's just that small thing

that's simple to to most people on this call click this button install this driver

um but at the end of the day these people these customers right they bought the product because they have that passion they want to look out right and

they want to enjoy and see and experience everything that we're experiencing that we're excited about as well so it's just having to take that

approach and understand that they're excited and they really really want to

see what we're seeing and they've probably been under a blank in the clouds for a week and yeah that's right

as soon as they buy something from from uh one of these uh one of our dealers here you know that's uh yeah

ticking you know so yeah we all know it's their own fault because they've bought the equipment and they have the

clouds because that's what we sell Cloud magnet yeah people just don't want to accept

that open the box and it unleashes a bunch of clouds so that's how it all works so that's how it all works

it really does yep so uh uh Dustin um uh is it uh you got clouds out there

as well or how what's the uh what's the situation out in your because you have what three observatories or something on

the desert there yeah we have four that we operate on the desert uh three of them are public and uh then we have one

out in Texas um coronavirus hit so I shipped a big Emmy to a software biscuit me2 out to

Texas literally two days later so I scheduled our Tech to run out there to do an install of a 24 inch telescope and

our um two days later coronavirus hits oh so

so you know at the time we were like all right so this will be a couple weeks maybe yeah

this will blow over no big deal here we are still I have all this equipment

sitting in Texas hasn't been used and I'm dying inside I'm broken because it's like those are

the best guys man those West Texas guys I know Scott you've been there many times man but it's just like when you're

in West Texas you're in a different world and you look up and it's like the the Milky Way cast your shadow on the

ground it's so dark and to have this equipment sitting out there um it's just it's heartbreaking but yes

we have these observatories set up for uh public use and we are expanding the project and one thing that coronavirus

has done you know because it hasn't done much I try to find the silver line where

you can uh because it's been so terrible for the world um is it gave us time as a community to

do a lot of things one of those things is to develop this project a bit and so Jenny and I have finally been able to

sit down and plan some of the how do we get this public Outreach thing really

going and uh you know where are we gonna put our next observatories and so we've been able to like scout out some land

and like different plots around the world world so that we have you know the next few spots already lined up and we

can continue the project but our goal is obviously to you know build I say obviously I mean I talk about it all the

time in the podcast but I guess if you haven't been there then you might not know but we are trying to build observatories around the entire world

where we can just give away access to telescopes for free uh 62 observatories

in total um and you know the the whole idea is just

it's crazy that you know it's we're this Advanced we can land people on the moon

but still people don't have access to telescopes I mean I was 27 years old before anybody started talking about

telescopes it was only when I moved out of Alabama and I love Alabama but I can

tell you through all of my schooling even through Auburn University I never heard somebody say the word telescope

not one time not even once yeah it's like so I never looked through one ever

and I'm sure that they have actually I know they have observatories at least one in bama I'm sure yeah oh I mean most

of the astronauts come from Auburn right but it's like but um it was just not

part of conversation and so I felt like man it is time to do something about it

I'm so fortunate that I know most of you have met Jenny but Jenny is just like she is the most aggressive person for

solving problems I've ever met in my life and so I go to her with something and I'm like hey this there's still so

globally no way for people that don't have a way like money or a way to invest

in this hobby or they just don't have access to people that know to access

this stuff Jenny's just like do it I don't care like figure it out I don't care what it takes we are solving this

problem and I absolutely love having a partner like that because it's just like

this is a problem we're solving this is something that people should have access to and Scott man let me give

you a quick shout out because you're the host here and it's your job to interview everybody else and keep everybody else talking but let me tell you something

about Scott that you guys don't see that happens behind the scenes I will call Scott and tell him some of my crazy

ideas and this is going to embarrass Scott but it's true he's one of the most humble people I know and I I love you for that Scott but

I will call Scott and ask him for really expensive stuff to

um to just give away to people that have had hardships or to help people in the

community that I feel like otherwise will not have opportunity or to advance the Outreach opportunities I have never

once in five years had Scott tell me no one time in five years and I do this

regularly guys I bet Scott I bet you've contributed twenty thousand dollars to these efforts of your own money man and

I I appreciate you so much for that because not many people would do that and uh it's such a huge thing and you

are not only giving up your time but you're giving up your money you're giving up your efforts and things that

you could otherwise be doing to advance your company and you know at opt we feel like this is something worth doing we

know you share that Vision it probably came from opt right I'm gonna brag on that because yeah all this all the the whole uh

Genesis of of how to um you know to care for the customers

that actually give you a living you know yeah absolutely make make your

livelihood possible okay and and to let your dreams come true you know uh it did

start at opt yeah well I just I want to say sincerely you know thank you for what you're doing

for the community because more happens behind the scenes than does in front of the camera and the stuff that happens

behind the scenes I can absolutely tell you guys uh with sincerity that Scott is one of the leaders in the industry in

helping make sure that people have opportunities and access to the universe and that is why we do these Partnerships

that is that is what we're about 100 we are trying to force that stuff into existence and Scott man you're making it

possible thank you well now I can't say anything [Laughter]

thank you very much that's very very kind but you know

we all do this and we all love it you know whether whether we're able to give

telescopes or give our time uh or to um uh you know to give the lectures and

all the stuff that uh you know if I took all the effort and brain power and

everything that's just right here on this this uh particular star party uh it you know it would light up the universe

so it's it's really cool and uh thank you very much Dustin that's awesome no

absolutely thank you awesome that's great thanks God so um let's let's jump

back to Chile okay Rodrigo you uh you we

stopped you in the middle of your presentation and um uh so I'm going to let you uh show some more of that

presentation show us some more of your Southern uh Sky Treasures here

it's good it's called um I'm uh one picture for the southern sky and

the running chicken nebula it's a running chicken nebula okay yes

I shared

I've never heard of this one oh okay that would go great I feel like you might have made this one

up excellent okay oh I see it I can see it

I mean it's uh that's pretty cool and this star

is Lambda Centauri oh wow okay

is in see in the end of the summer of in Chile

wonderful yes this this picture is here

take with a sports scientific cartoons four inch Apple refractor

a two two hours position with a decelerated camera is

it's a a nice in nebula and yeah we have people apparently

watching in Australia and they say that uh they're uh they're talking about this running chicken nebula too so

this is it's nice really it's incredible we have a worldwide audience tonight so

it's really it's great to uh have you all watching with us

um beautiful shot Rodrigo and the last imagine is uh

the The Dumping nebula dumbbell number

I didn't realize the dumbbell was visible from both hemispheres yes

Chile is is more for the north it's the low to the The Horizon

Dustin you're gonna have to go down there and uh visit uh ctil and um uh

bikunya and La Serena is really very very nice very nice super dark skies

um and uh Rodrigo and and all of his astronomy friends down there are very

very spoiled with in some of the most incredible skies in the world so

Rodrigo what is your latitude let's what is your latitude

I am 29th minus 29 right yes yes it's pretty nice

food and the

I see the Andromeda Galaxy low to the auditions

and in La Serena and in my relations in

is the many Professionals of Salvation yes

in the city I am rules for the light pollution

or in in this area um

if I go out to the city about 15 minutes

then the sky is dark is yeah very dark very dark

it was like Buenos Aires but in the cities a little chilly

our life is down not to the sky

you protect your observatories yes you have good lighting laws that's

that's excellent yes that's excellent and and uh in your in your area is a lot of Astro tourism

and so many kids come down there many amateur astronomers come and uh spend uh

a week or two uh doing uh astronomy and they have uh many uh observatories for

amateur astronomers to get access to

[Music] is very very important activity very

strong very strong but Kunia is a beautiful town for any astronomer to

visit when you go there on the walls on you know they have these stone walls and there are giant

astronomical murals they're all over this beautiful city uh even the

restaurants um uh they have a special maybe some sculpture or something that comes from

the restaurant some sort of uh thing but it's all astronomically themed and it's

just uh it's an astronomy Wonderland this little town called which is just at

the foot of uh Sarah Toledo inter-american Observatory so that

complex it's up there you guys can also get tours to go to ctio and uh and and really just see uh

What uh dark skies are really all about uh that the views of uh the large and

small magellanic clouds when I was there I mean knocked me out I was just I was amazed you know so a dream come true

really okay thank you very much Rodrigo that's awesome that's incredible all right

and uh so next uh let's go back down to Argentina uh where we could talk to uh

to Caesar so Caesar uh I would like for you to talk a little bit about

um your astronomy Outreach activities in Argentina and uh the challenge of uh you

have a big eclipse coming up in December sure nice and um uh here in the middle

of uh a pandemic as well which is a problem and uh so

let's talk a little bit about that yes we think that we

um we hope that we will open for business in December just today the

governments say that the summer time is coming like a uh uh official thing

because few days ago we don't talk about the

summer here the summer like uh you know for tourism or hmm

and fortunately today the government say

that okay we we will have in Argentina a summer time uh open for for business for

tourism and of course that we will make

old in few times but of course that when this we will we

will happen officially not only if you know that maybe you're listening in the

in the news um more officially we can start to work

in in the way more efficiently and more fast that we can go because uh

we have uh a short time to to make all possible to

fortunately we um like I tell you uh

two or two months ago that

we continue continue uh we was talking with people of the organization where we

have we choose the place where we can make the observation where we can go to

the conference in in the city of uh we choose the the the side uh the seaside

of the Patagonia uh near the Atlantic Ocean and city that

the name is and um I can I can show you if you don't

have a map in your computer I can show you um in a map where is to like share your

screen and and yes yes

sure sure okay

implemented

yes I'm talking with myself where you what do you need a map simply a map yes it's okay

yes wow this is Buenos Aires

we can go to the South this is all province of Buenos Aires

we need to go to this area because you have

in this line you have the clips and here in Las routas

oh wow is where yes all of this is the lesson it's right on the center line it

looks like yeah yes I I tell you that this is like a a very dry area is near

to Desert like the Sea of Cortez area you know and here do you have a big no a

big city sorry it's a small town but it's a very very nice place with a

um with a lot of complex hotels yes it's a

small City of each City and

um we are choosing a place that the name is here

only for the day of observation only for the eclipse yes in the middle not in the

middle it's only 200 kilometers maybe 150 miles

and you know if you live in Texas or in Patagonia when you talk about maybe 500

miles you say okay no problem you can go yeah here yes in Argentina is maybe

Rodrigo and Chile too because you have a very long distance and the people say okay is is we say is we say it's just

very close and you say thank you how many no yes yes the people

in Argentina is normal but the people in Patagonia for the people in Patagonia they say maybe 300 miles and say okay we

can go we can go for three hours okay yes I don't like the people live in uh

uh the Bronx of New York and they you know it's too far to go to uh Manhattan

you know so no yes and uh this is I remember that I

I went to a safari in in uh I was in my vacations in in

[Music] kilargo in 1999 in United States and

said and I go in the same day uh for me was normal I said okay I go to

this in the same day to Lana Georgia you say some people say they really do

you know the distance yes one well I don't remember now is it maybe 660 okay 660 maybe it's a one thousand

kilometers it's nothing it's okay well this is the program that we have with this that we choose

you can see the eclipse this is the path of totality but the the organization maybe maybe are

choosing balchetta only for for observation

but okay let's go no problem and we return to the lagrutas

in the same day maybe it's two hours it's not more than this but the people that can choose to to watch the clips no

problem because this area is all in part in the path of totality

I see wow is it yes and this is how you can

see you can choose uh another places in the mountains but we think that uh that

Illustrated sorry normally do you have an excellent and

excellent weather in summer in December very dry very uh clear skies and do you

have any clips that do you have it over your head and it's it's amazing

it's it will be uh if the Clips in Chile or someone in the in the west of

Argentina or in Chile was amazing because it was over the horizon uh and

you mix with the landscape the the eclipses this uh for people that that

don't see an eclipse over in the in the top of the I think that the the eclipse

in the top of the sky it will be amazing because all in the entire landscape is

dark and you know uh of course that we hope that we can say okay people come

to Argentina to come to to North Patagonia in December we are

waiting you we are hope yeah we are okay yeah so if

you have not seen a total eclipse of the sun you need to do it at least once in your life because it will absolutely it

will absolutely uh change your life so yes yes it was absolutely yeah

absolutely yes yeah how many eclipses have you seen so far this is like no the

the San Juan was the the first one in the clip said that was visible from

Buenos Aires to some fun in the west or you go to Chile yeah and uh sorry and

yes and uh for me was the same was the first one the the annular the ring

Eclipse was the first really in in Patagonia too but the difference between

a ring one or uh total annular is okay now it's in English annular Eclipse okay

annular yes annular Eclipse was this the first the second one the total was uh

but these ones for us was in the San Juan Province and this will be the next

one the second one that'd be great no it's I think some people tell me okay is this

saying go to the totality or maybe I can see from Buenos Aires

come on come on that's right no yes yes or

people say okay how it's okay at only 10 kilometers is the same no no no it's not

the same difference between there are people it's it's amazing it is it's amazing how many people will think

seeing a partial eclipse is is good enough okay and it's not I mean no it's

not a total it's not yeah it changes you inside it's it's amazing it really is I

describe it as the difference 99 totality is is ice water

and totality is boiling water it's that much of a difference I mean I love yeah

I I love this this uh comparison yes yes it's real yes that's it's that different

and it's just like that when it happens it's amazing yeah yes all right so let's

let's uh let's go back and see what uh the Astro beard is doing

all right this is the Astra beard that's right yes

anyways what was the inspiration well the Beard's been around for a long

time and uh my old handle was uh Redbeard and uh figured that I uh needed

to change something up and one with that yeah that's a good one though that's good yeah you must be here I'm gonna share a

screen again all right hold on I gotta bring the thing up

this one now somebody's already asking me what is question number three

[Laughter] third prize I gotta come up with another question I'll come up with the third

prize here in a minute okay you guys got that yeah beautiful

my uh hey Scott Rick got kicked out he's in

the waiting room is he that was my M27 uh from last week's star

party oh nice and um I think the most amazing part about that is is I got nine

90 second Subs so 13 and a half minutes oh right

I'll take it I'll take it I mean uh I figured it out I went through it uh I'm

at the end of eight almost nine months in now so I'm uh I'm very happy to be

showing this kind of work uh my uh only nine months of experience that's that's incredible really yeah and that was like

using a cell phone through a job with like uh I had my first uh Germany equatorial amount it didn't even come

with a polar scope so you just look through the hole you know what I mean and it was like oh yeah I see Polaris through the whole Suite like you know

we're gonna track good right so we've definitely changed uh quite a great deal of things

um that's how much the technology and the uh and the information has grown over

the last 10 years when I got into it it took me a good year to even

point my telescope where I wanted it to point YouTube with doing asteroids yeah

with doing asteroids you know I've worked quite a bit it took me almost a year before I was able to capture reliably

uh track some asteroids and do some measurements that's uh and I was I was working at every you

know probably 30 hours a week oh right on there's another full-time job

that's and I and I wrote two books about it and I just jumped in it with both feet but it's much easier now I think

than uh than it's ever been as frustrating as it can be 10 years ago it was there was very much

oh it was very tough it was yeah hey Scott Rick says he has a Saturn up does

he really okay well Rick Let's uh I got to go do a uh Meridian okay

and you got the spotlight Rick and you are muted

you are still muted you're still music that's the hardest

part of all of this Scott can you unmute him uh

I don't let's see saying he's not connected to audio

oh you're not connected to audio that's cool just pantomime it then okay just uh uh pantomline it and let's see let's see

Saturn yeah there we go it's got Rings that's right so uh here we go we're

going to um uh let's see there we go

oh there it is

ah perfect I have a few clouds coming in

all right video can oh it's the best push through

them oh there it is yeah

that's right so um what is your exposure time right now

120 milliseconds it looks like okay that's a pretty big time investment

yeah yeah I don't know I don't know if Saturn's worth it you know 120 milliseconds

it's asking a lot it is asking a lot that's right we know Dustin you're not a

big planetary guy that's a long exposure you know yeah yeah you know and it's a

the scene has degraded from when he was looking at Jupiter Jupiter was fairly still but yeah Saturn's bouncing around

a little bit this is this is the stuff I'm talking about how is this possible that we're seeing this stuff a lot you

know yeah all right that's why you get a little glimpse of enki's division you

know or cassini's division not enki's division you there it is

you can see it just a little bit yeah there it is

Saturn's a tough one because it's really dim compared to Jupiter

um they can be tough but with the processing software we have

today it's pretty amazing with all the detail you can pull out of these videos yes he's you know centered looking at I

was just noticing and he typed it the cloud filter he's got just enough of that thin Haze yeah and it's toning it

down and it's actually helping the image every once in a while because you can see the clouds like he was writing

and there's a thick Cloud coming by all right that's cool thank you Rick

thank you here we go that's awesome

all right uh Scott I'd like to share I'd like to share some pictures okay

Observatory is not up and running and since it's cloudy here but I've got some I've got some images of the moon yeah

you know that's that's Anna you know it's deep Sky all these deep

sky astrophotographers and my first love was lunar Imaging and uh I wanna I wanna

just uh suggest that even if you're a deep Sky Die Hard

you should to get your skills broader just go ahead and observe the moon a

little bit it doesn't hurt [Music] I know you curse it and because it's so

bright and but uh and that's my pitch for for lunar Imaging I'm actually

um yeah an assistant coordinator for the

association of lunar and planetary observers assistant I'm assistant assistant coordinator for lunar studies there and so I'm gonna I'm gonna put in

a couple of uh my two cents worth on that let me share my screen I was wondering where

that was coming from Jerry it was like this sounds this sounds like a public service announcement yeah yeah

who is sponsoring this yes and he's like well you know I'm paid by the moon

that's right brought to you by the moon so uh yeah exactly so he was doing his

news his uh his news announcer voice today on the show was pretty funny yeah

brought to you by the moon that's right all right so uh

I don't know if you all noticed or not I flashed up there for a second by mistake the answer to the question

what's that but somebody's probably already answered

it I'm telling one question needs to be how many tabs did Jerry have open in his yeah

so let me uh let's see there is no math that can calculate that

though this is the and and the hardest part is trying to figure out which tab is what and I'm looking at so this is

the Association of lunar planetary observer's website okay that's right and I asked lunar

stuff here oh man there's there's uh all the planetary and lunar stuff you could imagine

and I'm uh I'm a member of the uh a member of the staff in the lunar section

and uh there's a lot of neat tools that are available for doing lunar Imaging

and Analysis I'm kind of a science guy and I'm observing I'm not so much a

pretty picture guy but even with the moon you can do a lot of uh analysis to determine how high the

terrain is on the moon the planet you know different mountains and things like that and I've got a few pictures to kind

of demonstrate that I'm gonna um so here's a picture I took

uh this was back in uh

in 2011 God Eden says he must have a petabyte of ram oh yeah I love that's where everybody's

comments goes what kind of computer right and Wade prunty wants to know how long Jerry's smoke detector battery's

been dead oh wait you're you're now starting to blank it out okay it's still

happening right now I don't hear it anymore I've toned it out so here's an

example hahaha here's an example of the uh

of the measurements I took on uh clavius wow now what's the smallest feature on

this um smallest crater you can see here is

probably about three miles about uh five kilometers Maybe

um so the tiniest Little Dot is about three miles ago well you can detect you can either detect craters or you can

actually see them so you've got little blemishes like this we'll see where my cursor is I don't know how clear that is

but that's that's a hint of a crater and then you can actually see a crater like here yeah uh you can start to see you

can have a little hint of a crater there so that's around three miles you know clavius J is uh 12 kilometers in

diameter yeah so okay so that's a lot of miles okay kilometers 12K kilometers that's

that's uh yeah it's eight miles eight miles yeah so that's pretty nice

so that's one that's one image I want to share uh I'm using a tool called the lunar

Terminator visualization tool which is a measurement tool here's another of a crater called Schiller uh

so my test bar at the top for the uh

isn't that coming up I can't get my magnification thing to come up there

all right all right I don't have any measurements on here but this is another uh way you

can use the ltvt tool to uh to change your perspective and and to

rotate the image or transform the image so that it looks like you're directly overhead of the crater if you're familiar with this crater it's

on the lower if you look at the moon it's on the lower left side of the moon and it's

distorted very heavily but you can see here the way the program has stretched it so that it looks like this is what it

would look like if we were flying straight over ahead of this crater wow

it's 179 by 71k okay cool

so that's uh no why is it I mean this long I mean did did this did this

asteroid come in kind of sideways sideways and like you know bash

into it and scrape out it has to be very shallow angle because they've they've

the impact studies they've done at Nasa and other places is even with a a

shallow angle like let's say a uh asteroid or or a meteors coming in at

like a 25 or 30 degree angle to the Horizon it still creates round craters

it has to be very very shallow like five to ten degrees or less to almost again

like a grazing yes glancing blow right well what about these lines to the right

of the crater here that you got in the Box the these uh they look like

rivers or something you know oh this is tries Necker this is these are reels is

that what you're talking about yeah those kind of look like River beds yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that's those are those are called reels those are

lava tubes they're actually kind of like rivers in the fact that they were um

um they're Lava Tubes they're Lava Tubes right that have collapsed right oh wow and so lava

gets ejected when crater when crater impact happens and then it it it

uh impacts the crust and then it Wells up underneath and comes out and creates

these lava tubes in these reels but you can see on this uh image I

measured this crater tries Necker uh uh and tried to measure the rim

height to the floor uh basically based on the Shadow and you can see this is

around seven to eight hundred meters high is how high this Rim is on the crater

did you make up that name triesnecker did I make it up no I guess I'm

pronouncing it correctly I don't know that's the thing about astronomy names if you you don't talk to

people about the names you don't know what they're pronounced like that's true that's true uh so this is where they had

an Arabian correctly pronounce all the Arabic names of the stars for me and it

sounded nothing like what we say here in the United States so right so you could see that the sun is very

shallow it's very low on the horizon here you got these Long Shadows for these mountain peaks here

and you can see that like this one up here there's a couple up here you can see the profile of the mountain right

here it's kind of cool and at that point that that altitude at this uh part of

this Ridge is about 910 meters high that's the measurement this one's 817 meters

so that's kind of it's neat that you can do this kind of work uh with uh with the photographs you can take from your

backyard I've got one other lunar image that I want to share

that I took with the uh with at the Mark Slater remote Observatory with the 165

refractor that we have the fpl53 now it's set up for deep Sky work it's got a

one it's got a 0.9 by 1.2 degree field of view okay

so it's basically that's that's how big this field of view

is in this image right here it's 1.2 by 0.9 but I did a full I do these full uh

disc images of the moon but I want to show you what kind of resolution we can get uh

uh somebody's asking so do you have to have the Terminator in the frame for it to work

for what to work you get those profiles to the Shadows yeah you really want to

have good Shadows to be able to do the measurements that's right a full moon is not the best time to try to do these

kind of governments near the near the Terminator is the best location so for example let me show you this is a

this is a full size simple disk image right from our Observatory with not it's not set up for

uh lunar planetary Imaging this crater right here is five miles in diameter

well that's the resolution you can get wow wow yeah

that's a greater yeah so you can see features that are like this mountain see

that little Hill right there yeah that's about half that bit half that size or maybe miles yeah and you can see these

little these little Hills right here that's crazy yeah so when people ask can

you see the flag on the moon with the telescope I guess the answer is no you've got a really avert division man

that's right but uh so that gives you an example of what you can even do with just normal

field of views on a telescope if you if you know how to process the images if sure you can pull out all that detail

you know people don't realize how far away the Moon is that asks that question about the flag yeah you know they used

to think 225 000 miles away the most typical question yes yeah they don't they don't realize

it's 1.3 light seconds away you know I mean that's it's you say in

miles it's not that much but you when you say it's more than a light second away

you know I'll use that at Star parties and people just sir go wow I never thought about it that way

and it it adds depth by talking in light seconds as opposed to miles

right so here's another blow up of this image I took it's another full disk image of rupees recta you can see the

straight wall this creator

I call it the bit the bit I don't know it's four miles and then this one

which is not quite as is three miles right and then you can see the straight wall and you can see

uh some other details there but this is this is zoomed up quite a bit and processed

but again that's from a full disc more than a full disk image that's not even this is like a picture you might take

with uh by putting your phone into a normal small telescope right that field of view

that's right so Jerry why do you take full disc images as opposed to cranking

up videos well we're cranking up a 165 and getting you know going super long focal length

and and zooming in on the craters because of the the work we do at the observatory we

have the uh the Deep Sky camera set up and uh it's a it's a little bit of work

to switch out to the video camera we've got a high-speed video camera that we do and put on a three times uh Powermate or

telextender uh or five times tail extender depending on what the sky but I guess what I'm

trying to demonstrate here is that this telescope is near perfect if you could pull out this is this is nearly

diffraction limited Imaging here [Music] um

so let me see what else I've got there's another example

so these exposures are how long typically well what I do is I

kind of cheat I I for for typically when you do lunar and planetary you take video like what

the what we saw earlier what Rick was doing um but these are these were taken with a

Astro camera at well like one or two milliseconds I don't know if I list what

the disclosure time was it's one or two milliseconds uh images that I stack I take and it

takes like a half an hour to an hour to take a bunch of images because it's so slow getting this image data over it's

not like a video it's really slow so it takes like a half an hour to get like 500 frames

that I then stack uh like like you do with the video except you're doing with

these frames and from that I can pull out all this detail

um so just to zoom in on this one real quick this has got a couple of neat

features there starkus plateau which is really cool

aristarcus is a one is the brightest uh when it's illuminated near the full moon

it's one it's the brightest crater on the moon basically hey guys this image was taken early in the morning hey guys

we've got to cut somebody a couple people have gone into the waiting room so I'm going to drop off and go into

that I'll see y'all all right all right thanks

so that's uh the last thing I'd like to say is just

uh take a look at the Moon every once in a while with your telescope if there's a

lot to see it's not as static as the Shadows change all the time you can do things with the

Shadows by with your images that uh really you can learn a lot about the moon

um and uh and look at the Alpo website too it's uh

oops what the heck was that

I don't know why that's going there

right again I'm just putting up um you know someone

asked uh you know if uh one of our uh spacecraft

had a photographic evidence of uh our

Landings on the moon and I just put up links oh yeah link uh from the lunar

reconnaissance Orbiter where you could actually see the footpath of where uh one of the astronauts had walked on the

moon it's pretty amazing oh yeah absolutely you know so and any doubters

out there can they can look at that and then they can ask us Aldrin uh you know if he actually

went to the moon so right right recuse him that he didn't go and then he'll probably punch you out but you know

he'll punch in yeah the nerve of that reporter no I he did

actually hit a guy one time but that guy really pushed him so that's that's when that's when Buzz

Aldrin went from being like legendary superhero to like God to me you know so

anyhow uh okay so um uh let's uh let Steve do you got uh

you got more to share with us here Malia yeah can you okay can you hear me

now there we go oh yes I'm here in Toronto right you live

and uh I'm gonna I'm gonna uh I want to show what I've been Imaging uh right now

um and I'm gonna have to call it uh a night for me I've had a very very long day

um yeah I can see your bloodshot eyes from here yeah listening to Caesar talk about uh you know short drive distance

into the three or four hundred kilometers um I log 900 uh today in um a little uh

road trip I had to take last minute so um [Music]

but uh I want to show um what I've been what I've been doing

um let me just get my uh screen working here I have to remote

into my other machine I ran into a problem last week um with my Imaging and I figured out what

it was it was Zoom that was dragging everything down so I know what not to do now

but um

hopefully you can see my my screen

I'll set you up there on that rock wall is it no it was you Scott

definitely not okay so um I have been Imaging uh the bubble or

uh pass vote 10 30 my time it's a couple of

hours um that's tonight okay that's nice right now that was the image at this down off

the camera um and we're doing 10-minute exposures I've got a Starlight Express 694 Pro uh

fantastic camera um and uh uh bubbles positioned uh

nicely and I'll be uh on it all night um and then uh so it should be clear tomorrow and I'll probably get some more

work on it tomorrow as well yeah yeah you're welcome you know come on the show tomorrow at uh you know on the open go

to uh Community show and and you can share it so sure yeah all right or next week uh for the next one or next week

break yeah once you get uh out of your coma yes yeah right yeah and Steve I know you I know you got

a bail after this but uh hey I just wanted to say thank you for everything you're doing in Canada and for bringing

this stuff to the community it really is huge and uh so important and I think you

know you're doing a great job we very much appreciate it and yes you know thank you for sharing this on clear skies Network as well it's um anything

we can do at opt to support you we are 100 in and if you need anything at all

give me a call we're happy to help with anything we can appreciate that Dustin I'll keep that in mind thank you very

much everyone it's good to see you uh this evening Scott thanks again for having um

um maple syrup Steve no no no that's all

mine I keep that for myself all right that's like currency up here

it is currency that's right it's like Bitcoin Bitcoin

the thing is that maple syrup is probably worth a little bit more than Bitcoin oh I'm sure it's worth a lot

more that's right yeah it's Canadian gold that's right yeah all right yeah we'll be yeah I'll

be back on um uh next week and I'll uh describe I'll give you a call tomorrow about um

tomorrow's open go too okay sounds really good man take care enjoy have a

good night thanks see you later

hey Scott this is Dave I can share my screen I actually um yeah let's let's

have you and and there was a question too uh someone uh was asking uh uh they

wanted you to describe your camera system that you're using again

um you can show my desktop on the I'm going

to try and share my uh my tablet let's start

okay you can share a tablet that's pretty cool all right okay so

this is the um the ASI air application okay and right now um I did a preview well

let me go through the different screens real quick I won't take up too much time um the top one is the guiding uh right

now it looks like it's doing about 1.3 seconds so it's not too bad for my my uh

I'm gonna click on that and we can actually see uh

the star that it's selected the graph down there all of the

corrections that it's trying to make as it's guiding go back

I can hide that uh let me hide the histogram this is a

two minute um tribute shot and this is the the witch's broom I

think um I think it's the same one that the rich is doing 6960

so this is just a two minute preview I actually haven't started capturing any any data yet

I just kind of wanted to show that since I actually was able to get it before the clouds start rolling in I know you know

and and Dave got Dave has like a giant uh street light out there he's he's surrounded with lights and yet he's

getting uh he's getting uh you know this faint nebulosity uh and this goes back

to what Cesar brolo was saying that uh even if you're in the city you should be Imaging uh and imaging often you know if

you're an astronaut yeah right now I am using a filter uh and up along L enhance

okay yeah that helps uh someone you said somebody had a

question about the camera yeah they just wanted to know which camera you you are using oh it's the Nikon D5300

and it's unmodified wow camera

yeah yep regular camera yeah so this application

um we can actually go ahead and create an auto run

uh session I can tell it how many lights I want along the lights I want

um if I'm using a mono camera I can do the binning uh let's see what else

um there is an option for Meridian flip um I haven't used it yet so I don't know if it works I've heard

positive and negative things about it I can shut down the uh the SI error and

have the mount go to the home position at the end of my session if I want to do that I can also do

darks Flats biases and all of that's configurable in this screen

if I configure all those and I just go ahead and start my auto run session oops let me go back here we have someone

commenting from Honduras uh and she says we have to visit La Serena

and Chile baldivia and Vina Del Mar I'm sure that

exploring the stars from there will be wonderful in addition to enjoying its beautiful beaches and its colonial

cities given on Easter Island with everything and its Mysteries yes that sounds awesome hey Scott has

Dustin Dusty Haskins shown up in the waiting room Dusty Haskins shown up in the waiting

room I do not see anybody waiting no hmm maybe he'll pop back into the to my room

then okay well I'm taking up two Zoom spots here so as soon as I'm done I'll uh let go this one no problem

okay so there's also an option here to pull or a line

um I can't really see Polaris because I have that street light behind me so I don't haven't used this feature yet

there is also an option to focus Brett Blake says you know you're a real

astrophotographer when you wake up in the middle of the night roll over and murmur Meridian flip

[Laughter] does also have a small database of

options which you can type in a name or you can go to so if I wanted to go to this one for

example like just select it gives me a little information on it

and choose it and then I can hit go to here it's highlighted in green I'm not

going to do that because I'm already on where I want to be

the other feature I was showing at our first star party was and I did this here at bright star which

I think is 52 sigmy if I'm okay I'm not sure if I'm

correct on that one but it wasn't the center of my screen so I kind of wanted to move it over so you can just hold

down on the screen somewhere and and just move sorry I'm in I need to

be in preview mode yeah there we go and if I just tap that go button it'll

Center to that area it'll do a plate solve to make sure I'm centered there wow that's kind of cool that's very cool

yeah I'm not going to do that right now though but yeah this is the um just a preview of the ASI air

application that I'm using and you can see over here there's also a plate solve button

so it'll take a look at that and run the plate solve oh that's great yeah plate solving is awesome it really

is yeah very powerful anyway that's I just wanted to give a

little quick demo of that thank you very much Dave that's great that's great okay so we have

um a little treat here uh I promised artwork poetry astrophotography uh talks everything

during our star party and and we had a global star party uh tonight but uh

Carlos Hernandez is a space artist and um so he provided us with some of his

artworks and um so I'm going to uh

just run this little this little uh medley of Carlos's space

art from space places here

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thank you it's an incredible

space fire it's really great

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so that was just a real quick with his images there

um but uh we've had a we've had a nice night here

um Gary do you still have some more to share with us out there

um one of Jerry was on on the moon I thought

we would um just very very quickly

show how we can process this so

well just checking that's already in there so let me share the screen for a second

okay very good so if I bring up now this is

another image off of the uh going alone telescope

wow what that's cool scope that you won all

right so that's going to be the next door prize okay

the um explore scientific 7mp camera yeah

right so what we need to do is because the camera records in raw we need to get

our a true color in there yeah so we can see some of the mineral colors in it so

the first thing you can do this really quickly split the image into its RGB channels and you'll notice that the blue

is quite dark then we've got the green and the Reds a little bit darker and because we've got two green pixels very red and blue huh

uh oversaturation and green really is

easiest way so we can use a simple pinning piece inside called linear fit

and we can put the green is the reference

and then we just drop that one Into the Blue drop that onto the red so that we're all

matching and then we combine the images back up again so Channel combination

scope is a telescope kit okay there's a international year of astronomy

Cornerstone project back in 2009 hey Scott I got one

and you got one right yeah this is what he's imagining through folks so what we're going to do now is just

bring some color in with balance the color yeah we're just going to bring some color in so we use the curves

transformation but we select saturation and then you know live preview we just

start to bring some current there we go yeah just making picks inside looks simple

it is an impossible feat I mean yeah wow

look at this you like color saturation so um

there you go well I don't think that the guys who invented the Galileo scope ever

envisioned that you would be doing astrophotography with one uh

that is really a that's a great image it is I need them for the Box this is what

you'll get with your gallery yeah absolutely folks all you have to do

is overcome the learning curve of pix Insight

just to do that they used to do that in the 70s with deep Sky objects on these Scopes didn't they

is asking I got a Celestron nine and a quarter Edge HD telescope what is the

best deep space camera for this OTA I have the one of this

yeah it's something reducer on it if you've got the 6.3

reduce on it I did this High age yeah he says a nine and a quarter Edge

HD what's that yes

um maybe I'm sorry sorry something maybe with a not so small

pixel size um I use it my ever ever used Mercedes

from 904 uh with a ABS reflex regular

camera but I don't know maybe an S WBO who is the

the best model but I have I had a uh at the same

telescope you got that telescope oh a lot of time in my 30 years of

it's funny it's funny because these are the types of questions so we have something called opt University where

our staff has to attend every single day for half an hour to come in and learn

you know the intricacies of Imaging and just astronomy in general or even physics and

um you know these are the kind of case situations where we where we test them

which is like okay this scope what type of camera works with this situation and

so it's interesting because this is the stuff that always comes up it's like that's the thing about astronomy is whatever you change anytime you change

one component you know you have to consider the rest of the pieces and how they're still going to work whether it's

the mount or the telescope the camera even The Guiding like everything goes into it so it's uh it's it's funny that

this came up because I mean we literally have to you know sure the right camera for the right telescope

but maybe first of all you can think in a

in in a sequence where you have maybe around 12 megapixels

uh is the right number but the industry of

the of the sensors maybe uh sometimes do you have a lot of megapixels and maybe

do you have a small size of uh of pixels

pics size that you don't need maybe because you you have an every disk that

is have more diameter that your pixel size

it's an Optics yes efficient Optics problem

yeah often for deep Sky uh you you want larger pixels that are more sensitive

um rather than necessarily a smaller uh or you know a larger number of pixels

um I will say I also own the telescope I bought a hyperstar and that's the lens

assembly that goes in places a secondary mirror and what that allows me to do is

get a f ratio of about 2.3 on that telescope I can run a narrow band

hydrogen Alpha filter with a relatively short exposure on that telescope and I I

don't have that on an EQ Mount or anything it's an old as Mount and I still at f2 you know at F 2.3 can get

enough light in that I can take you know relatively short exposures

um with that and and so with but they also think about the camera size when

you're putting it in where the secondary is if you you don't want to DSLR because

it's too heavy so you're going to want to go with a lighter you know a smaller astronomy telescope or astronomy camera

instead of like a DSLR because you're you're still putting that up there at that you know front assembly where the

glass and everything is specifically wanting to run mono

sure I've seen go ahead I have seen some gentleman run a 1600 GT

as or as hyperstar he's either yes

1600 GT Square so you you end up yes so you'll be better with the standard

1600 yeah Brett's coming in here with rapid fire

he wants to know CCD or CMOS uh depends on what your favorite image

yeah yeah they've both got their edges they're both as good as each other

but nothing much has come a long way that's true that's true does binning

really solve the small pixel lack of sensitivity

nobody really does been in anymore to be honest it's it's an old school thing

um with all of the modern cameras even my camera's sort of three or four years old there's not a lot of people that

have been in it just doesn't work out worth it in modern software it's just so easy to

process these days yeah and the cameras are so sensitive yeah

right so that picture Gary took was with this telescope I know can you show show

that image one more time Gary you were you were I can take this thing apart

well I could take all of our telescopes apart

that is an amazing stunning image with a

50 dollar s telescope I've almost got it apart already

pre-polished the lenses or something or don't you realize you got about a hundred thousand dollars worth of

experience going into that yeah okay so hey Kent we still got to do can't we

still gotta do our experiment with uh Camry in one of the uh uh one of the the uh National Geographic scope yeah yeah

so so go ahead and I have now taken it apart here's the guts of this telescope Scott share that

yeah okay here let's go this is

the telescope he used

to take that picture and here's the eyepiece

yeah I don't think he used an eyepiece yeah but this this is the eyepiece that comes apart in the four little lenses

and that's it that's all there is to this telescope yeah that's what I use to take that picture of the moon but this

special telescope that took that incredible yes six figure

image is the next door prize and so Jerry do you got a good question Jerry

you got a great question for us uh I'm thinking about asking Gary for a question since he's

the one all right Gary you got to come up with a question we rarely let people outside this you

know the the office here and ask these questions so

name the full terrestrial planets oh there we go name the four terrestrial

planets be the first one to send that answer to Kent at explorescientific.com

and win a remarkable and amazing astrographic system the Galileo scope

not pre-assembled yeah that's right not pre-assembled if

you want you want pre-assembly it's going to cost you another hundred bucks

that's the that's the level of craftsmanship that goes into our build right

that's right so gentlemen it's uh we're coming up on

uh 11 41 here in Arkansas that means it's uh

a couple hours later here for Caesar um it's getting late for him I know

Caesar do you have any more to uh to add before we uh let you head out for

for bed here uh yeah sorry I I don't understand I

don't understand the last that you told me no yeah I was just wanting to know if you have any more anything more to share

um uh it's getting late for you it's getting yes I I I have some pictures

that we we take here okay

if we have something like or or we can talk about some Adventure

here that we make that like we talked in the last

uh um let me check and share

ah yes sorry

this where I live this is Buenos Aires yes I I have a place that

is very good for to make astrophotography in in the middle of the

city because the the place is very high uh we have the roof in the same building

at 120 meters over the level of the sea and

we are in in an area where we are we are

out of the first um layer of contamination of light

pollution sorry and um

something sorry okay here and it's it's a it's

nice to make uh some pictures that that uh is are easy for for us in middle of

the city to make uh a better works of course that I I'm not all time I make

pictures in the middle of the city but uh well you know

um this is another thing that we make in our laboratory we are all time

disassembling uh like Kent a few minutes ago a telescopes

every every telescope is a kit Telescope yes yes yes yes and I am I am uh like uh

like a kid in you know uh because I I I love my work this our facilities to to

disassembly and uh and repair all type

of telescopes one of the most typical things are change the position of the

mirror for many Newtonian telescopes that are not designed

with the back focus uh for to to use CCV cameras and

reference camera and we need to change the position because we don't like cut

the two yeah uh and uh of course that we change the position of of the mirror back uh

forward sometimes 24 well around one

inches uh because it's the normally is the is the the difference of size that

you need to change when you use a newtonians the typical optonian of of the commercial telescopes

not all tennis not all newtonians are uh with a with this product the 130 of the

first light don't have this problem I think I never I never try but I think that is

is okay the back focus is work for properly for

um visual um photography position when we can check this maybe in the in the

next first line but we need to check that no this is marketing tool but yes I

think that that word properly because and it's different the first lie is

different to another Newtonian in the industry in the same five inches uh diameter I think that

maybe can't you tell me that is because it's shorter they have

okay I'm sorry I I okay we have to we're weighing one

tomorrow somebody asked us how much one weighs and I couldn't find it so we're gonna pull one and weigh it and I'll do

some measuring tomorrow just to see yes it's not five the F number if not it's

five it's 4.5 right it's different yes

and and this is um another adventure that we make in

Argentina we make Doms and aluminum dumps for for observatories yes and uh

this is one of the of of the

Doms that we make for a tower for a

hotel in in uh is a ski resource dissenter

and uh we put uh 11 inches Schmidt Casa

Grande and we make uh designer the aluminum dong the problem in this area is that they have a very very strong

winds and and okay well and uh we we have a

showroom full of telescope not now but this is uh at the beginning of this year

and we have the empty again and we uh we will fill our showroom in in our

company maybe at the end of the of the year

wonderful yeah it's wonderful I look forward to getting down there sometime

it's going to be great yeah it's gonna be great now we did have a uh

uh we did have winners to announce um

uh after you're done here we're going to announce winners of last week's store prizes so

that's always fun cool it's a spectacular showroom Caesar yes

thank you yes I'm trying to to ensuring the okay

stop share okay wonderful okay yeah thank you thank you thank you it's not

easy to make to have something like this in Argentina uh we we are a company with

the company is very old it's a family business and they

today 30 years old I I started this this area in this

company today at today 30 years old oh wow I was young

I was young when I started patients yeah that's huge congrats yes that's awesome

yes it's awesome okay so let's uh let's thank you very

much so we're gonna announce the winners of last week's our party uh uh virtual

Star Party 2 and we gave away eyepieces and so uh for question number one and I forget

what the question was but uh John Johnson won his 52 degree eyepiece of

choice um the answer the question is not here but the answer is latitude oh what is related to

altitude what is related to the altitude of the north Celestial poll yeah

that's what the question game that's right

Jennifer Shelley won the 82 degree eyepiece of choice and the answer was uh

M27 probably a discovery date of 17 or discover years 1764.

Jason gonzale the vast reaches he was a winner 82 degree eyepiece of choice and

uh he was uh he correctly answered the distance to um the dumbbell which was a

hundred or 1227 light years Jennifer Shelley won

again okay by answering correctly um and she went 100 degree 20 millimeter

eyepiece and it was about uh ghosting from a previous image do you recall what

that question was about Jerry yeah that was about the RBI the residual bulk

image problem there we go there we go so we will enter Gary's I'm sure Gary's very familiar

with the RBI problem with the ccds right

we will answer the uh or give the winners of uh uh at virtual star party

for next Tuesday night um and uh so you know we're wishing all

of you guys good luck in answering those questions from today's star party

just looked at the door [Laughter]

he's like what's that famous it's perfectly daylight here

oh my God so you're going to get the solar

telescope out and start making some uh yeah I think give it an hour or so all

right all right so I I did want to talk to you a little bit uh Gary you are

going to be heading up um or helping us coordinate the European uh version of this virtual star party uh

so we have a date selected for the 28th of this month and

um that would happen I think approximately about 5 p.m central time here which will put it

10 is that right about 10 o'clock uh the normal show is 4 P.M isn't it yes it is

yes so that 5pm I'd be eleven eleven and would it be dark by that time in there

yeah yeah it's dark at 10 now at 10. okay so we can start at four so that

would that would be great that'd be great so if any of you are listening in Europe and want to

participate in the virtual Star Party European Edition

it'll be our first one uh we'll uh do it on the 28th of this month and um looking

forward to uh hosting that star party it's gonna be a lot of fun yeah being very very interesting yeah

awesome awesome okay so let's come back to uh Astro

beard and find out what's happening over there in thank you see um not honestly uh too

awful much here I mean I'm still uh grabbing off uh Subs here on the uh the Western Bale it's uh good to see uh

others uh doing that I I Gotta Give a Little credit because uh while doing all my Youtube Learning uh I saw uh Trevor

Jones uh The Astor backyard uh do the Eastern bail and it was kind of a little

mind-blowing for me um so I've always been amazing job at this shows I really admire that guy's

work so I mean him and you know Dylan and Chuck and I mean all the smaller guys I mean all of them I watch them all

because you can learn more from watching more people than you can from watching

one or two and you know everybody's mistakes the newer guys everything and

um I just I love the hobby just got sucked in you know fully

um and magina doing it and uh hopefully showing some new Subs uh some new images

next week uh assuming that we're going to be same time same place and uh I love

the community and I'm looking forward to being a part of it as much as possible that's pretty much all I got I'll give

it back to you guys so uh you can get on with the show all right sounds great sounds great so uh what else is

happening out there uh you got any images any lot more live images coming

through actually Scott I just finished stacking

my Jupiter um so I could certainly show a stacked

version of that um here let me just pull pull it up super quick I used uh okay let me get

get my screen shared and

it's great too here so um I didn't do anything too awful fancy

here let me open up the actual image that uh is the final final image here just a second and

I subscribe and and actually I think I saved it in yesterday's but this is the

this is the uh stacked image with uh registracks six

um old version I don't think you're I don't think you're shared right now am I not shared

here let me hit it there we go I bet it's doing it now oh wow

excellent oh um yep and that's with some some wavelets

uh in there to pull out some detail and things like that so

um you know I think I grabbed I can't remember exactly how many how many frames about it about 300 megabyte video

and uh um yeah and just ran it through registracks real quick and beautiful

um yeah yeah so uh you know even though it's I mean that's fun again that is

really fun that's great yeah you know and and and that's the great thing is you can do the observing part

live and just grab some video and save it for later and then boom do some amazingly

right because it's really kind of 3D with the limb darkening and all of that you know

it really does yeah spectacular thank you yeah thank you

yeah thank you thank you Scott if you could check the waiting room I believe uh Dusty Haskins oh Dusty

is here I believe he's in there now Dusty told me he's a little bit under

the weather dusty how are you man

Dusty I think you're uh there we go there we go all right how are you feeling you were a little under the

weather today huh still on my deathbed I actually made my way out here my wife kicked me out of the house because

too bad because I've been out here just laying on the ground the whole time so it's been all right but yeah

um no I figured the least I could do is at least share what I got from so yeah so dusty was on Virtual Star

Party two and uh got uh

and he has the coolest man cave he really does oh look at that it's the legend Dusty

Haskins that was great so yeah this is this is what I got

during the uh during the star party last week congratulations well thank you

congratulations no Dusty was that with the 152 that you won that was with the 152 that I won

that is sitting right there that's right so that was on uh give some picks that

you won that that's great that's really not fair though Dusty to post images with a 152 come on man

I know I know yeah that's cool I like the I like the

telescopes he's got up there going over the door you know it's kind of like uh swords you know uh I've been the dream

it's awesome it's living the dream man he is the Astro photos over there RTD2

look at that everything that that the that one that's in the

back I actually painted that oh you painted it oh you're not you're gonna have to show more of your artwork

Dusty I can I can do that yeah yeah let's have some of your artwork for the

next uh virtual star party let's just start party four that sounds good to me yeah I think I

figured that's the least I could do is quick hop on and at least show you what I got from last week awesome

that's great Dusty thank you very much man yeah um yeah you're a real trooper to hang in

there with us so thank you very much not a problem you can get better yeah thank

you I'm gonna go back to laying down okay all right take care thank you

thank you well all right so

um Rodrigo uh are you uh you have more to share with us as well

um I I'm sure the

picture of Jupiter uh I

I take um three weeks ago three weeks ago yes

now how long have you been doing astrophotography um

about the 20 years

yeah you love it yes you love it

and your daughters love it too [Laughter]

yeah yeah do you see the picture wow look at that that's good yeah he's not

messing around serious [Music] um

personification

excellent with my little camera quality five

all the five qhy5 yes wow they did a nice job

very nice yeah that little eyepiece I mean that

that uh camera looks like a inch and a quarter eyepiece it's very small yeah this is is a good uh planetary camera a

little but good camera a planetary camera

this is my my pictures are Jupiter

yeah we lost Jerry Hubble it says from Jerry Hubble to everyone thanks

okay this is this is all it's beautiful

that's excellent beautiful

okay all right well we have people starting to drop off

here a little bit as we are at the Midnight Hour uh here in Arkansas that puts it at uh

very late for uh Percy sir although he's here every night

I am the in the world's life oh that's right it's okay yeah that's right that's

right okay thank you Rodrigo that's awesome that's awesome okay

all right so Dustin uh we're gonna we're gonna wrap up the show with you

um uh no pressure words of wisdom any last parting

incredible astrophotos let's see this situation level here uh

so no I I don't have any photo I feel like everybody here is taking phenomenal

work there's nothing I can do to to bring anything that you know is on a on

on par with what everybody is doing it's incredible work um I'm just excited to see all this

honestly I feel like um everybody's pushing the boundaries of Imaging and there are a lot of questions

so anybody that has those questions look I'm happy to answer them you know CD versus CMOS look there are huge

differences huge differences um there are a lot of questions about

you know because I'm starting to get I see my phone blowing up with questions about binning now yeah there are a lot

of reasons so we do uh two different sizes of business guys one is opt consumer sales the other is opt Pro

Services all they do is the NASA JPL stuff and I can tell you that there are still a lot of reasons that they are

binning especially with the new CMOS cameras with like 60 megapixels so you

can you can bend that down two by two and go to 15 megapixels and have huge pixels so

there's a lot of stuff there if you have questions reach out I'm happy to answer them or kick them to the team whatever

it is um and so and I I see that a lot of that's already happening uh it looks

like looks like 15 questions already yeah rolled in so uh good thank you for

sending them over we'll definitely get those answered um but more than anything else I'm just impressed I'm impressed by everybody's

work um and honestly inspired I love doing these things because what we've created

in this community is a positive feedback loop that just feeds itself it's like

it's like I talked to Scott and Scott is so amped every time he talks about anything we're doing and then you know

obviously Rodrigo and Rick and and like everybody else everybody's so pumped about everything it is they're doing in

this and then so then in turn I'm like oh my God I need to do more let's do more more I like oh yeah

we're gonna get all this and I'm like oh my God let's set up the next one let's do

another one let's do something bigger and I can tell you we've already we've already won up guest from the last thing

we did which we thought was going to be impossible we already like uh gathered up guests that will be bigger than the

last like uh Neil deGrasse Tyson thing so it's just it's exciting and I think

we're pushing each other in the right direction which is let's Advance this

community yeah let's build something worth building and let's work on cooperation not competition and just

yeah really really drive this thing forward because look at the images every

image you guys have shared tonight I've just been like my God this wasn't even possible 10 years ago no no no like 10

years ago it wasn't possible and now you're doing it for fun right it's crazy

so I don't know man I'm just excited about the whole thing now I'm not gonna be able to sleep tonight so thank you

all for that um but no I'm I'm just really I mean

honestly ecstatic I'm thrilled that this community is doing what it's doing that clear skies Network after a month of

even existing is driving this kind of community and conversation so to all of

you here in the chat tonight thank you if there's anything that opt can do to drive this forward uh please reach out

I'm happy to help any way I can um I know Scott feels the same way we talk all the time and I can tell you

so Scott thank you for uh for organizing this and being a part of it everyone

thank you for inspiring me to do more I promise you you're likewise likewise

we will absolutely give it hell I promise you opt is good at that we will give it hell we will absolutely drive

this thing forward I told everybody all the time we are we are a freight train moving forward in this industry and you

can board get out of the way but we are going forward with this direction of sharing and promoting a

positive community and so all of the old Community all of the Old Guard that is just ah I've been doing this for 30

years and if you don't do it my way then you're a problem that's gone that's gone that's gone we are eliminating that

that's right yeah I want I want every kid in my neighborhood to take better

images than I do and I love that that's what this community is about is just sharing if you have a secret on your

I've seen kids do images with the observatories and they're amazing we

have a 12 year old on our stream that is taking better images than I am and like every time I see it there's part of me

that my ego's like man I'm really trying

better than me and then I settle into the idea that's like that's awesome that's exactly what should happen the

the you know the coming up generation should be better than us and it's just a testament to our efforts as a community

that the uh the young kids are even like you know taking this on and wanting to

pursue this and so let's keep driving it forward as a community let's share every

bit of information we've learned every struggle we've had let's just drive this thing forward and you know honestly all

of you in the chat here tonight all of you especially here on the video tonight uh like I say all the time you guys are

the heroes thank you for doing what you're doing and uh we will support you any way we can so let us know if we can

help and otherwise just keep doing what you're doing let's drive this thing forward awesome awesome okay all right well I

want to thank everybody that was on with us tonight uh and all the guys that that

hung out with us to The Bitter End okay so Rodrigo thank you very much uh you

know best regards to your family and we'll be in touch with you uh daily

almost at this point so thank you very much Astra beard Richard Grace thanks again

for being on our show uh and sharing your knowledge and your enthusiasm even as a

beginner you're doing amazing amazing work Rick uh you know good Lord uh it's

so cool to see live video uh streaming you know all over the world uh right

here through clear skies Network and through you know our other simulcast channels that we've got going on right

now Gary Palmer is maybe in a coma right now or getting breakfast so

but uh that's great and uh Caesar you look like you're you're as fresh as a

daisy I mean you're not even you're not even tired you're probably gonna just stay awake all night so that's great

Tyler thanks a lot thanks for being a trooper hanging out with us uh you know is

really awesome and Dave ing uh thanks again you know sharing all that technology with us so it was really

great and um you know as uh as Jack corkheimer would say and I don't know if everybody

here remembers Jack Clark Heimer but uh a great guy he had a long running I

think maybe 40 or 50 year television show devoted to naked eye astronomy and

uh so uh he would always say keep looking up and uh yeah and that's uh

that's our message and um you know again big thanks to clear skies Network opt Gibson picks uh

everyone thanks very much and uh we will see you next Tuesday and actually we'll

see you tomorrow uh on the open go to community so take care and we'll talk to

you later [Music]

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